tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22968388.post114142859523108130..comments2008-10-10T20:45:25.333+01:00Comments on From Under The Duvet..: The Blame GameRachhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02482687493950331137noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22968388.post-1141507533531671632006-03-04T21:25:00.000Z2006-03-04T21:25:00.000Z2006-03-04T21:25:00.000Z"you are far across the oceanbut the war is not yo..."you are far across the ocean<BR/>but the war is not your own<BR/>and while you're winning theirs<BR/>you're gonna lose the one at home<BR/>do you really think the only way<BR/>to bring about the peace<BR/>is to sacrifice your children<BR/>and kill all your enemies<BR/><BR/>the politicians all make speeches<BR/>while the news men all take note<BR/>and they exagerate the issues<BR/>as they shove them down our throats<BR/>is it really up to them<BR/>whether this country sinks or floats<BR/>well i wonder who would lead us<BR/>if none of us would vote"<BR/>(Words: Larry Norman Song:'Great American Novel' 1972)yet how they resonate today...hum!?<BR/><BR/>"There are two great lies that I've heard; the day you eat of the fruit of that tree you will not surely die and that Jesus Christ was a white middle class republican. And if you want to be saved you've got to be like him." (Words Derek Webb 2006)Paul Bowmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22968388.post-1141434515926279872006-03-04T01:08:00.000Z2006-03-04T01:08:00.000Z2006-03-04T01:08:00.000ZDespite my rather strongly worded retort, I do sha...Despite my rather strongly worded retort, I do share some of your sympathies. I don't like to see God used as a token or banner for someone's ideology or agenda, and so have very very sensitive feelers for anyone saying summit like that in the public. But in this case, as is quite rightly pointed here:<BR/><BR/><I>“I was appalled by the news this evening, which implied that Tony Blair was using God as an excuse for going to war. The excerpt from the interview that was shown gave a very different interpretation. The very thing that the newsreaders were decrying, stirring up religious hatred, they were guilty of. He said that as a Christian, his conscience was shaped by his faith in God and that God would judge his decisions. The news report implied that God told him to go to war. IMO totally inaccurate and indefensible broadcasting. Very worrying too in these unstable times.”</I><BR/><BR/>We have to look at how it's filtered by the media - who're more interested in a headline than any nuances or effects of what they say and pass on by distortion. If Tony had pretty much mentioned God, most reporting would’ve been various shades of lurid - partly cos there seems to be an almost pervasive secular anathema to talking about the sacred in our public spaces. <BR/><BR/>ps. I must say my fairly crude and undeveloped sense of justice was heartened to hear that the people behind that massive robbery are gradually being pulled in. Good-oh.postliberalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12824572170604895615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22968388.post-1141431135988114712006-03-04T00:12:00.000Z2006-03-04T00:12:00.000Z2006-03-04T00:12:00.000ZOk, yes, they weren't on Bush's level and that is ...Ok, yes, they weren't on Bush's level and that is something I am incredibly grateful for. And I do think God should be consulted but... oh, I don't know.. I do think there has been a bit of a, as you say, knee-jerk reaction to it but I can't help but wonder what he hoped to accomplish by saying it. We all know his beliefs - how will the Muslims, and other religions which he governs over, react to this?<BR/><BR/>RachxxRachhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02482687493950331137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22968388.post-1141430540126807622006-03-04T00:02:00.000Z2006-03-04T00:02:00.000Z2006-03-04T00:02:00.000ZAs has been commented to some extent here, I think...As has been commented to some extent here, I think most of the reaction to the comments is more of a joke. What he actually said, that he prayed to God in seeking to come to an understanding and decision about going to war, is hardly controversial. If religion means anything to Christians, it must embrace all parts of your life - it would be a strange act to go and exclude God from this part of his work. <BR/><BR/>What seems to be the case, certainly from the headlines that’re somehow extrapolated (with a lot of twisting) from his words, is that there are a lot of people out there that have a knee-jerk reaction ready in advance. And the majority of what I’m reading is along the lines of either “I don‘t like what he decided, so how dare he come before God and then decide differently to what I think” or else an allergic reaction to the very mention of God in public. A lot of people need to get a sense of perspective, to treat what he said with some more fairness. This is hardly <A HREF="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/03/03/windia03.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/03/03/ixnewstop.html" REL="nofollow">George "I’ll see war as an instrument of Godly good and freedom, and not be too fussed about killing people, then go and sprinkle rose petals over Ghandi’s grave as a testament to peace" Bush</A> territory. <BR/><BR/>Rugby: Boo!<BR/>Walk the Line: Yeah! Go and see it.postliberalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12824572170604895615noreply@blogger.com